The first time I went, the
Berlin Wall was still up, and I was a
kid. My mom took me to Checkpoint Charlie, and we went to East
Germany, and we went to the opera and to this beautiful, old, old,
old coffeehouse, and then kind of toured around
East Germany. At
that time, there was no regular lighting. Everything was only lit
by neon. There were no signs anywhere in Eastern
Germany. So many
of the places had been destroyed by the war, and they didn't really
bother to fix them. It was just a completely different place. Then
I came back as the wall was coming down, which was really exciting.
All everybody wanted to talk about was politics, social issues, and
moral ideas, and all that kind of stuff. Then I went just after the
wall came down, and it was a city of, like, cherry pickers and
cranes! When you looked through the Brandenburg Gate, where the
wall used to be, it was just nothing but cranes and construction
sites. The most amount of construction sites I have ever seen in
one place.
Today, Checkpoint Charlie apparently is one of the most visited
sites in the world. There's a tiny little white building that looks
like an outhouse, and there is a Checkpoint Charlie Museum, where
they have all the artifacts from the wall and some of the artifacts
from Checkpoint Charlie, from people who tried to scale the wall,
or tunnel, or tried to get in … Now, it's like the moneymaking
thing there, where they have the T-shirts and the buttons and the
"I went to Checkpoint Charlie!" mug. It's become like a souvenir
shop.
What is your image of berlin from films?
Did you see Wings of Desire? That's my image of the Brandenburg
Gate. Bruno Ganz and whoever the other angel is, in trench coats,
standing on top of the Brandenburg Gate, the camera going around
with the angels on top. Also, in Berlin Alexanderplatz, it's very
lush and beautiful-looking. But the actual Alexanderplatz is
probably the ugliest place in the world. Nobody knows why. But it's
so ugly that I'd like to make a movie there. It's like our images
of the Iron Curtain, visually oppressive
Russia. In fact, now
that's where they all shoot when they want to shoot
Moscow at that
time. They shoot it all right around where Alexanderplatz is.